Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Comes Down to...Whaaa?!

Okay, so this post is going a completely different direction that I thought it would go, when I wrote my last post, but life is like that, right? Especially when you don't get to post right away. So anyway...

I left off last post with Jay, realizing some things needed to change, and listening in on a private conversation with a DD friend. Let me explain that a little bit. This friend I have, she's amazing. She's a person in this lifestyle that I turn to when I'm in trouble, because we're a lot alike, and we can support each other. Now unlike what both our husbands undoubtedly think, we don't just advise each other on ways to weasel out of trouble when we're in trouble (yeah, sometimes we give advice about ways to weasel out even before we're in trouble, hee hee!).

In all seriousness, my friend can objectively look at my situation and give me a new perspective I hadn't considered, or reinforce what I already should have realized. She can pinpoint what's really going on in a situation, just like I can usually about stuff she's going through. That's why it's great to have an outside viewpoint. And yes, she gives great advice, when I choose to listen! (Hey, don't give me a hard time, it's not like she listens every time when I give my sage advice either! [to whom it may concern: right? right? ;-P ]. But yeah, we vent together about our frustrations, and just listen to each other, or we encourage each other, and even pray for each other during hard times. DD would be so much harder without her in my life.

To this friend's credit, she listens to me vent my frustrations about my husband not being consistent, and it can't be easy for her, because she'd probably throw a party if she got one day without consistency! But even she will admit that the arbitrary way we sometimes end up living this lifestyle--never knowing when I'm in trouble or not, or what rules will be enforced that day, like it's determined by the flip of a coin--can be incredibly frustrating, even worse sometimes than the opposite. And because it's been affecting me a lot lately, and apparently because my husband and I are a topic of interest between her husband and her lately, we've been having quite a few conversations about it.

One thing she shocked me, though. "You know, Kay, I've been thinking about this a lot, and I think what it comes down to is that you don't respect your husband."

Whaaa?! That was my initial inclination. Geez, tell me what you really think! I don't like being told that! Of course I respect my husband! Aren't I doing DD? Aren't I submitting, which once was to me a dirty word? (sometimes still is). Don't I love him above anything? We talk about this a lot! She knows that!

"What I mean is, you don't respect him to lead you," she continued. "You don't respect that when he says something, he'll do it."

 Well okay, I still don't like it, but she's got a point there.

She went on to explain that when I get a rule, the first thing she notices that I often do is question whether it's really a rule, since I don't really trust that he'll see it through, that I pick and choose which ones to follow, based on what I think he'll enforce. We talked about how easy it is to make DD a game, and how I lose the benefits DD gives when I do that. I know that in my head, but hearing my friend affirm that helped me. A true friend will do that for you, telling you the truth when you need to hear it, even when you don't want to hear it!

I know she's absolutely right, and her words have made me think a lot about things. Anyone who follows my blog knows that this isn't the first time I've struggled with this issue, that I've even written a ton about it. But the idea of it being about not respecting my husband puts it in a new light. It doesn't sit well with me, to be honest. I don't want to be like that. I can't change his part of it--it's true that he hasn't actually always contributed to that respect by following through. But I do want to learn to respect Jay more than I do, regardless of what he enforces or not. I just find myself constantly falling on my face, and sometimes I beat myself up about it. Not anywhere close to like I did before DD started, but still. I do know the benefits that DD gives, and how I sabotage that from happening by my attitude not being what it should be. How I work against him, and stop us from being the team we're supposed to be. I want to get there. Even if I have to battle my will every day to do it. Still, I just wish he'd make it easier sometimes, ya know? Not that I want black and white consistency at all times, but isn't there a middle road somewhere?

Anyway, I'm digressing so you have the background, but that's what we were discussing. And that's what I was venting about...with Jay listening from the other room. Okay, I should mention something about that too. Sometimes Jay does mischievous, conniving things. But this time, I've got to claim responsibility that this was totally my fault! This is a new house, and I forget sometimes that just because I'm in a room alone, doesn't mean that sound doesn't travel. Like say, if he's in the bathroom and I'm in the kitchen. So it wasn't like he had an ear up to the door violating my privacy or anything. But at the same time, he wasn't going to stick his fingers in his ears and sing la la la when he knows the conversation is about him and how things could be made better.

So he heard everything. And I'm guessing he took mental notes.

Because that night, Jay let me know it was time to enforce maintenance, or role affirmation, or whatever you want to call it, which he hadn't enforced the week before even though he was going to do it. This was a total surprise for me, because had I bet someone, my money would have been on him letting it go.

Well that turned into a punishment from a few times of disrespect during the day. So he addressed that and then he surprised me. He identified a few things I did well, in spite of our stress.

Then, "What are your goals for the week, Kay?"

"I don't know!" I answered, still distracted by the pain in my backside. Can't I just rub it a little? Geez!

"I'm not accepting that. Think of some." He waited until I named two, then he added a housekeeping one. Ugh!

"Can you do this this week?"

"I don't know!" I shrugged my shoulders. It felt overwhelming, and I had just recently been reminded of how much I hated being spanked.

"Well, let me ask you this, then. Do you think it's fair?"

"Yes," I answered, truthfully. I shook my head, frustrated. "Anyone else would find it easy," I muttered. "Still, this is me we're talking about." After a moment, I lifted teary eyes to his. "Do you think I can?"

Jay held my gaze, solemnly. "Yes I do. I have complete faith you can do it."

"Then I guess I'll trust you," I answered, trying to derive confidence from him.

"Okay, so we're agreed. You know I have to give a consequence otherwise you and I both know you're not going to do it for sure. So we'll meet back here again Sunday night. If you don't meet those goals, then I will spank, but it will be punishment, not maintenance. If you do, then I won't spank at all, and we'll just examine new goals for the week. I change my mind on the whole spanking regardless thing, I just don't want to do it, no matter how light it is."

 "Yeah but I prefer it to this kind of thing where I get punished big-time every Sunday!"

"Well, good, because I've got a solution to that! Don't get punished!" my husband said cheerily. "Now come cuddle with me. Trust me on this: things will be okay."

Uh huh. Trying...

Okay so I should interject that, technically, you can say this isn't maintenance, it's a weekly review. And ugh, it wasn't something I liked better, either! Even though I've always been not enthusiastic about the idea of getting spanked regardless, given the two choices, I actually probably would have preferred maintenance. The idea that it wouldn't hurt as much as a punishment is quite appealing! This way, it's kind of a bad punishment if I ignore the goals for the week, worse than what I usually get. BUT one thing I have learned , at least in our relationship. is that sometimes you've got to stay away from expecting rules for this stuff! Basic guidelines, maybe. Like a lot of guys out there, Jay hates doing what everyone does. He likes coming up with his own thing. And changing it if it doesn't work for him. It's his show. Not that I don't have an input, though! But I still try to understand that ultimately he's in charge, and let him lead.

And lead he did. Well up until a few days ago, he could have been nominated for HOH of the year. I wasn't able to get away with anything. I was sore a lot. He was very loving, but VERY consistent. It was annoying, but comforting. I was actually making some progress, as little as it was.

A few days ago, though, well after I wrote the last post, something happened that was quite stressful for us. And yet again, things have been unintentionally put on hold. I'm back to pondering my friend's words, and trying to give that respect on my end, even if I can't control his part of it.

So even though the circumstances have changed back to what they were previously, I'm still saying I'm done rebelling. I REALLY want to be! If Jay's consistent this week, good for him. But I'd like to not even have to find out!

It bothers me that I don't respect my husband enough. It bothers me when I treat it like a game, to see how much I can get away with. I don't want to do that anymore. I want to stop all the expectations that determine if I feel like rebelling or not.

If I can, anyway. It's not always an easy thing to do. This is, after all, me we're talking about. But I can try. And keep trying, right?

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to get back to working on the tasks he assigned me to do this week...:)

28 comments:

  1. Good luck in accomplishing your goals.

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  2. I hear ya, respect is an area I struggle with a lot. I try to remind myself that true respect isn't supposed to be based on his performance, it's meant to be unconditional. That's a tough one!

    I think you are on the right track..and the harder it is the more you know that you are :)

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    1. Okay, wise one, I'll try to take your sage advice ;)

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  3. You are both making progress...and that is usually not an easey thing! Hang in there, abby

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  4. I struggle with the "will he or won't he" at times too...and I hate that I do that! It never helps us. This gives me a new way of thinking about it though, so thanks, to you and your friend!

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    1. You're welcome, that's what I'm hoping; that as I put my struggles on here, and what I learn, others who are going through the same thing can learn too! We need to support each other, because sometimes it's hard with only our own perspective. So don't you give up trying, and I won't either! :)

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  5. What if you write down the things you need to accomplish. Than just pick one thing at a time and isolate the task so it doesn't become overwhelming. Sometimes when I have tasks that I find difficult, I pick one a day to finish. Not that I am perfect- I hate do do certain things so I often do not do those until we need it done pronto! Good luck!
    Minelle

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    1. Good advice, Minelle, and I'm trying to do that more. Sometimes I get overwhelmed because I can't see the trees through the forest, lol. I look at everything at once, and then I want to give up. I'll try to do that, especially today. Thanks for the reminder! :)

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  6. Maintenance is something we decided against, at least for now. While I understand it's meant to be a reminder of what to expect when I step out of line, I don't like the idea of being spanked without having done something wrong first. I told Steve that, but left it in his hands to decide. Thankfully he agreed, saying he didn't feel comfortable spanking without a specific offense to spank for.

    I think respect is one of the harder parts of this lifestyle. I don't have a problem with watching my tone and attitude (for the most part anyway). My problem is showing respect by allowing him to lead as he sees fit, rather than telling him how I think it should be done.

    I'm also guilty of testing. I was doing it just yesterday in fact. He did call me on it and I thanked him for it. I just wish I had trusted that he would step up if needed rather than try to provoke an action to see if he would.

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    1. I have mixed feelings about maintenance, lol! I used to be massively against it, until I realized it's preferable to punishment. So it works to prevent the worst from happening, I guess there's something there. But...not my decision.
      And I wish I didn't have a problem with tone and attitude! I'm working on it, though. Yeah, don't test, they hate that! That, I know from experience too, lol! ;)

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  7. This path does allow us to learn a lot about ourselves. It's not easy, but we can grow. Sara

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    1. Well said, Sara! Way more than I wanted to, I'm afraid, but yeah, it's what we do with what we find out that's important, right? :)

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  8. I'm not sure which is harder for us to deal with, consistency or lack of it! Good job Kay...keep trying and growing.

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    1. I don't know either, Molly! Maybe whatever one you don't have at the time, lol? And thanks, you too! :)

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  9. Sometimes respect is the hardest part of this. I've never understood why .... especially with the ones we should love and respect the most. Trusting someone else to lead you can be difficult... I struggle with this with my husband and with God. I am known for placing my worries in both their hands and then allowing my fears to overshadow sense; next thing you know I'm taking it onto my own shoulders again. I suppose this is human nature. (sigh).
    I'm happy that you have a very wonderful and wise DD friend... even if you two are Lucy and Ethel to each other. As you stated,, it's so nice to have someone to bounce this lifestyle off of. The fact that she gets you and advices you with what you need to hear, instead of what you'd like to hear, makes her such a valuable asset. You are so blessed to have that kind of support.

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    1. I don't know why it's so hard either, April! And I struggle with the same! Yes, I thank God for my friend every day.

      By the way, I've been thinking this for awhile, and finally have to say it: have you considered starting a blog of your own? I would love to see what you would write--you seem like such an amazing person and I bet you'd have some really cool insights! :D

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    2. Ha.... was wondering when one of you ladies would tell me to get my own blog!... It's because I leave such long comments, isn't it?

      Seriously, I thought about it years ago when there were not many blogs to be found on DD. At least, not any good blogs that I felt helped me learn more about myself and submission. Mark was opposed to me writing online, so I kept a journal for the first eighteen months. These days I find that there are more than enough out there, and a few that are excellent in both writing and content. So thank you for your kind words, but I think I'll leave it to those of you who write so much better, and are far more insightful than I.

      I realize it's a lot of work for you gals, however I appreciate, more than you'll know, the time and effort you put into writing. I'm guessing that the original intent was for you.... but I am grateful that you allow me to reap the benefits along with you! Thanks Kay.

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    3. Oh don't sell yourself short that we write so much better, because judging from your always insightful comments and the absolutely hilarious one you left for Stormy's quiz post, I'm pretty you'd be wrong about that! But yeah, it does take up a lot of time, lol! So I understand that one! Nevertheless, I'm always happy to hear your perspective on here. :)

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  10. It's so hard Kay. I too need consistency or I wouldn't be able to do this. I think you have a wise friend and showing that respect even when Jay is off his game is a great goal. I'm praying for you.

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    1. Thanks, Susie, and yeah I agree with you, I think she's wise too. I'm trying, it's hard sometimes though! And thank you for your prayers, I do appreciate them, more than you know! :)

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  11. Good luck to you both

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    1. Thanks, Trazuredpet, and thanks for stopping by! :)

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  12. Awww Kay, I am so very proud of you. Even if you don't notice anything at first you will see your relationship change. Submission comes from the heart. We do this thing to make our relationship better, to be one. Fighting him and trying to figure out a way around the rules divides the two of you. Good job.
    Sorry I didn't comment sooner. I have not really been around much. We need to catch up soon.

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    1. Thanks, Blondie! That means so much to me that you say that. And yes you're right. No worries, it's ok, I haven't either due to trying to obey (which is why I'm responding so late back, lol). Hope all is well...and YES, absolutely we need to catch up soon! :)

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  13. I was inspired by your post to do the things that honor and show respect to my HOH. Thank ypu. And may we all stick together on trying to better respect our husbands. -Becky

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  14. Becky, I apologize this reply is so late. But that's great to hear! That's exactly why I blog! And yes, absolutely! :)

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