Maybe it's due to that it's been such a long winter, or that my little girl is obsessed to cuteness with singing the "Let it Go" song, but we've watched Frozen a lot around here these past months. I'm not complaining; I'm a huge Disney fanatic. My young children being obsessed with it really just gives me an excuse to watch it without my husband being too annoyed. But lately a conversation I had with Jay has been making me think.
You see, I have something in common with Elsa, and not just a love for beautiful eyeshadow. Nope, no cool powers. Not that her gift would be useful at all in my life. Spankings are way worse in the cold, and cold totally does bother me anyway! My view is more yay for springtime starting this week, and good riddance to all things winter! Plus, for the record, I'd much prefer the Disney princess ability to get animals to clean my house!
But the one thing I do have in common with her is coming from an environment where you have to be perfect, not ever make a mistake, where you never get to explore who you really are.
I spent most of my childhood in a foster home with a cult-like atmosphere, shut away from most of society. It was bad, everything we did and thought was controlled. After several horrific years, I finally learned the key to surviving was allowing myself to be programmed until I had lost most of myself. I had no desires other than those I was told to have. I obeyed even before I was told. I could anticipate what my foster parents wanted, and I melded my mind to theirs. As a result, my foster siblings were in awe of me. Even my foster parents were too, since I had achieved being their perfect daughter. Like with Elsa, my coping mechanism gave me security behind walls. Unlike her though, it freed me from my fear and also gave me one more thing, that illusion of power. Life seemed perfect.
Until...
It was gone.
I no longer had anyone telling me what to do, how to think, how even to feel, and the illusion that was my life fell apart. I discovered everything I had been taught was in many ways exactly opposite. I discovered I'd been shut away from the world and had no knowledge to even make sense of it. And most of all, no sense of who I was, and how I could even fit in. The grueling process, of getting beyond the fear and uncertainty that went with trying to decipher slowly what was true and what was not, the overwhelming journey of self-discovery, and even picking up on social skills I was denied learning from being so isolated from society, lasted awhile. And that process wasn't over when I met Jay.
So what does this have to do with DD and submission? Well, when we first met, I would have been the perfect submissive wife. Yes, I liked to argue, and I stood up for my values and faith so passionately, nothing could sway me. That last part actually awed him, combined with my level of innocence. But beyond those things, I never stood up for myself. I had an almost servile air about me. Even though I had no idea I did.
Before he learned what love was, (further explained here in this post from awhile ago, another Disney story of ours, ha), I put up with Jay's beyond controlling, damaged alpha ways no matter what, as he pushed and pushed to see how much I would take. I remember him saying once, "Stand up to me!" I remember it, because it shocked me. I actually took those words to heart, and as he transformed from the unfeeling beast of a person he used to be into the amazing guy he is today, so did I, from the damaged naive girl into a woman of spunk and confidence. I discovered I didn't like being told what to do. I discovered it gave me even a rush of actual glee to rebel. I talked back. I matched his witty quips with my own. I explored with wonder this new world I had previously been denied, and basked in that freedom. You think I can be a smart-ass and love loopholes only because you don't know Jay! He's the master of all that, and I learned from him. Even learned to one-up him, and wow, was that an addictive rush! And basically, you could say he's the one that corrupted me.
Yes, you heard right, It's HIS fault!
Going back to Frozen, we recently had a conversation about all this. I admit, I may have been playfully taunting him by overemphasizing for effect "...let it go, let it go, that perfect girl is gone! Here I'll stand, in the light of day..."
Jay took it in stride, shaking his head. "I can see why you like that song," he commented dryly.
"Well you helped bring me into the light, so thank you," I responded, smiling sweetly.
"You know I don't think you just sometimes fall into your rebellious nature, I think you're actually proud of it."
"Yep!" I shot back, totally teasing, because of course I'm going to say that. But no way for real, that's horrible for a DD wife! Especially doing this as long as we have! Except that it got me thinking. Could that be true? Maybe that's why so much of DD is so hard for me. I absolutely am proud that I won't let myself be controlled anymore. That I'm done and will never go back to who I was. Ok I see it, he's right. There's pride in rebelling, holding my own, the power I feel in even taunting a bit (um yes, I am flaunting my new indie eyeshadow Aim to Misbehave which I got for reasons having nothing to do with the color). It's true. I broke free, and I love it. I will always love it. I'm as competive as he is, and I don't think that's going to change. I'm his match after all, and he's mine.
But bad things happened between us, and with me. Things couldn't go on how they were, so enter DD. Learning this new way necessitated changing gears quickly. But we are who we are. I still am who I am. Even moreso because before DD, I struggled with low self-esteem from all the ways my disabilities affect me. Now I'm more confident, but that also makes me feel more proud to assert myself? And here's where I fear it just looks like a bratting game to an outsider. Because it's not like that. I promise you, my heart is in the right place, even if my inclination is still to protest. This is not about attention or fun or other reasons. It isn't "play", or seeing who can win. Maybe about most else, but not about this. Yes, that switch between the two ways of thinking happens fast. Or it's supposed to anyway, sometimes doesn't, and I feel caught between the two while my brain tries to unentangle what I think.
Breaking it down, I'm in this lifestyle for a reason. I choose to be in it, because it helps us. It's not a game, it's a lifeline. I may joke around about it (another coping mechanism), but I also take it super seriously. And yet at the same time, I fight it. With pride I never want to hide. It's that constant inner war. How can someone like me live this lifestyle? How can defiance and submission coexist? They're opposites! Isn't that as logical as combining winter and summer? It's tough, working through the this stuff.
By the way, that conversation continued with me pointing out the irony of me getting spanked when he's the one I learned from. That since it's his fault, he should be the one punished. He didn't agree of course. Said something eyeroll-worthy like he made the mess, he should clean it up.
I could tell though as we talked that as much as it drives him crazy, he's proud of me. No doubt he wishes I'd do what I was told on a more regular basis, and fight him oh so much less. Still, he knows I have a mind of my own, and he doesn't want what I used to be.
I understand there's a balance. I can't swing from one end of the pendulum to the other. Both are unhealthy. So I'm working on it. My husband is ummm...helping through, as he says..."acts of true love". (seriously you wonder why it's hard not to roll my eyes when he says stuff like this? Guess he's a bit of a Fixer Upper...).
We talk about this kind of stuff a lot though. Sometimes jokingly, often seriously. It's so complex. He knows how much I struggle with all of it. There are times it brings me down, it gets discouraging. This struggle shouldn't be so great, it shouldn't be so hard to do what I already agree is best for us.
I just wish things could be wrapped up as easily as they can in a Disney fairy tale. But this is real life. Maybe I'll never truly work it out.
Or maybe I should stop trying to reconcile it. Maybe two things can exist together, even if they are so crazy opposite. Maybe it doesn't have to make sense. And maybe that's more ok than I think it is.

Thats the beauty of it, not making sense and there must always be a polar opposite to things thats just the way the world rolls.
ReplyDeleteThat's a good way to put it, Seaside! Thanks! :)
DeleteHi Kay, so great to see you here. Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. Life is messy, and unfortunately not like the fairytale?
ReplyDeleteI think the two can co-exist and I love your last paragraph. Many of us struggle trying to figure it out. The important thing is that it works :)
Hugs
Roz
Thanks Roz! I actually wrote this awhile ago with the ending of keeping trying to figure it out. But I'm just starting to come to terms with this instead. Hugs back!
DeleteOkay woman, pull up a chair and get comfortable. I am going to channel a less popular Disney character, Owl from Winnie the Pooh. LOL. " Back in the year....."
ReplyDeleteI get it. I really do. My upbringing was more Leave it To Beaver, but it came with its own wall building kit. To make a long story, less long (thought I was going to say short?), I grew up with a learning disability. A 'version' they classify as 'stealth'. Basically no one knew, because to the outside world I was not 'bad enough' to identify. What it did, along with many other lifetime fun experiences, was create a me I THOUGHT everyone else saw- good or bad. I lived my perception of everyone else's perception
I hated (and still basically do) confrontation. I would defend friends with my last breath, but felt I couldn't defend myself because I didn't have a leg to stand on....let's just say Dd changed all of that! LOL.
We never butted heads prior to Dd. When people talk about it bringing harmony to their homes, Barney and I laugh. It has so many WONDERFUL aspects, but harmony? LOL...um not so much at times.
I am hoping some day the pendulum will at least slow and I can better cope with the unleashed Wilma, but I'm not holding my breath! I have stifled emotions for far too long. I have made myself what I "SHOULD" be my entire life. Now I am WHO I am...and I'm not giving that up.
I will say I am submissive, that I know, but I am not quietly going about my day...lol. I love and hate to feel what I do. I will not however give it up because (wait for it.....) it is AUTHENTICALLY me!
Great post Kay!
willie
Well Willie, that explains why I like you so much. Thank you for sharing! We all have different stories, but I think there's more of us than I realized out there who are like this. And "love and hate to feel what I do" is a good description! :)
DeleteHey Kay...happy to see you post. Sorry to read what you went through in your younger years...whenever I hear children treated like that, I just want to go hurt those people.
ReplyDeleteI came to TTWD via a different route than most in that neither my ex nor Matthew approached/discussed spanking or discipline with me before spanking. Why did I allow it? Was it just because I loved them? No...there were things in my past that made me really need the structure, caring, communication and closeness TTWD brought to those relationships.
My childhood wasn't horrific but neither was it the Walton's but the real damage was done in my late teens/early twenties. Some people who know a lot of the details have asked if I would change things if I could go back in time and my answer is "NO WAY". Everything that I have gone through has helped make me the person I am today and I happen to like me. Are there things I still want to change? Of course, I'm a work in progress and will be until the day I die. But all in all, everything good that has happened to me along with all the challenges I've overcome have made me stronger. Oh yes, I am definitely a smart-ass who loves loopholes...am very good at finding and utilizing loopholes...used to frustrate the holy h*ll out of Matthew even while it made him laugh. He never wanted me to lose my 'sassy attitude'...his words. LOL
I am so impressed with how you have overcome everything and become the awesome wife, mother and friend that you are.
Hugs and blessings...Cat
Ugh hate that you had to go through some bad stuff too. But you're absolutely right, that's the same as I tell others too. Everything combines to make us who we are. And yeah, Jay gets super annoyed too, and he doesn't say it outright but I know he feels the same way. Just maybe tempered a bit? I tell him my job is to keep his life from getting boring. I think I do a pretty good job LOL. Different ways of looking at everything right? Hugs and blessings back! :)
DeleteHi Kay,
ReplyDeleteGood stuff! I understand the battle and when one digs dipper and ttwd is in the mix, some mysterious things happen. So what if you put on slightly different glasses? Instead of the rebellion bubbling up when controlled, look at it as control being removed by the safest person in your life, one that only means to do you good? Hidden in that safe place, when the tough stuff is stripped away, is the authentic you. Only you can keep learning who she really is. In time that reconciliation does start to make more sense bc your confidence in who you are blossoms. Lol. That sounds a little cheesy but for me it was well worth thinking through in the sane moments and gave me permission to let go in what I'll call the safe but very vulnerable moments and discover a whole lot more of myself.
HEY...quit stealing my authentic word woman! Sheesh....
DeleteI shall consult my thesaurus in the future wee feisty one.
DeleteHi Susie! Yes Jay is definitely my safe place, although it doesn't feel like it at the moment because DD is really super tough right now. You (and Willie too, ha) have given me a lot to think about. It's easy to think I'm confident in who I really am sometimes but when times are tougher and it seems like I just only mess up constantly it becomes a struggle again. Thank you for commenting! Miss you!!
DeleteIn all seriousness Kay, in times like that, it is better to focus on who you are ( or as I say that little voice inside) rather than what you have done. It tends to take the edge off of the struggle. When all else fails the mantra, " Tomorrow is another day to get it right" before bed helps too!
DeleteThanks Willie! That helps me, especially today. :)
DeletePfft...we both know you'll forget.
ReplyDeleteCome back!! You are missed! : ((
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